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Episode 46: James Owens, Car Noir and Residuals


James Owens drops into The Round Six Experience at the 70th Grand National Roadster Show, and talks art, acting, cars and the mysteries of the mighty (and oft-misunderstood) Gaffer. In what quickly became our most quotable episode ever,  things immediately slide waaaayyy off of the rails, and from there is an on-the-rails/off-the-rails adventure. From early days in art school and school plays to working with A-list studios, James has had a diverse and creatively-fueled career that beautifully paved a path to his present. Follow along, and get an uncensored look at forging a career path in both Hollywood and automotive art. james owens artist episode 46


  • The mysterious career activities of the Gaffer
  • Jim’s hat
  • Alternate-dimension Chip Foose biopic
  • Things go all Maury Povich
  • “We’re definitely using some of that”
  • “Feign happiness”
  • Lay pigment and get paid
  • Founding of the Brush Bastards
  • The thunder of Doc Marten boots, the pitter-patter of Vans and the squeak of Converse All-Stars
  • Stomp’s less-intelligent cousin, Mosey
  • James Owens: the Switzerland of the podcast
  • Painting or acting
  • Jim on the move to Eastern Tennessee
  • From advertising to acting – Making an agent money prior to ever meeting them
  • From the Dad in a Dollywood commercial to the Sultan of Sable – Brian proposes a disastrous ten-year commercial cast reunion project
  • Navigating the LA/So-Cal acting and automotive art worlds – Where the real money is in acting
  • How you can help a fellow artist
  • James’ first commission, Speed Demon
  • “Name that car”
  • Center for Creative Studies
  • “I spent my twenties marker high” – Honing art skills with markers
  • A flood of puns and double-entendres
  • A sexually-induced stupor
  • The genesis of Car NoirTelling a story in the art
  • Avoiding predictability
  • Knowing when to pull the plug on a piece
  • Brian proposes “Frankencanvas,” the ultimate cast-off art show
  • The magic of Fordite – Mechanical dentures meet Fine Art
  • The creative process
  • “Let’s see you act your way out of this, Funny Man”
  • Jim’s Hudson Pacemaker
  • ATM mogul
  • “Neckwear Bouillabaisse”
  • Things get… “furry”

Episode 45: Chip Foose, Carson Lev... and a Skidmark


The Round Six Experience at the 70th Grand National Roadster Show was a hotbed of activity, and played host to a number of great guests! Here on Episode forty-five, we’re joined by pat guests (“repeat offenders”) Chip Foose and Carson Lev. It’s a two-fer of the highest order, and these guys were a blast. Chip was being honored as “Builder of the Decade,” and had an impressive display of a dozen cars, right across the aisle from the Gearheads, and talk turned quickly to judging and building cars to compete for the title of America’s Most Beautiful Roadster… As well as macrame, bad puns and poop jokes, naturally. Better than just a social visit, this one goes deep into lessons on licensing, indemnity and marketing, not to mention some great connections with Disney, CarsLand and Round Six. Heck, we’ll even throw in some behind-the-scenes history on a few iconic builds. All of that and some Hot Rod Elvis approval on marketing gone weird with our stickers. Enjoy. episode 45 chip foose carson lev


  • Skid marks and giant rings
  • Carson goes sock-free
  • The gang talks AMBR picks – Chip goes outside of the box with his pick
  • The ever-evolving path to AMBR – What it takes today VS in the past – “Beauty” being the operative word VS the entire skill set
  • The process of elimination VS optimization – Good execution of an idea VS poor design/aesthetic of an idea
  • Builder of the Decade, and how that came to be – Even “Hot Rod Elvis” is not immune to oversight – Keeping the spirit of Boyd in a car – Speaking of Boyd… that photo – A discussion of the styling cues on some of Chip’s display vehicle choices
  • The 0032
  • The genesis of Foose Design – The whole story behind the building and the steps that led to it
  • Boydster 1 and 2 – The Boyd bankruptcy
  • The AMBR rules change alleged controversy story
  • The Hemisfear and the JL Full-Throttle story – A lesson in IP and indemnification – Driving a Hillborn-injected 640HP, 2,300-lb car – The last Dick Landy Hemi that almost was – The Tom Gale connection – The cease and desist letter – A lesson in names and licensing – “We don’t have to be right; we just have to crush you” – On not being afraid to change directions
  • The Cars Land story – Brad’s tool box – A lesson in humility and having things work out well – The Round Six/Radiator Springs connection – The Disney security gate/name problem – The last remaining original DisneyLand parking lot
  • Round Six marketing – “Always a Happy Ending”
  • “Cheese, Everyone”

Episode 44: Hanging with Jeff Allison


The Gearheads spent the weekend at the 70th Grand National Roadster Show, and sat with our good friend, Jeff Allison and talked design, careers and rum-based drink concepts. Forging a career with unique art, ideas and a ton of personality, Jeff Allison is presently the Creative Design Consultant at Shine Speed Shop, where he is re-branding what has become an iconic name in the industry, and having a ton of fun doing it. From humble beginnings, Jeff made a name for himself through his art, and is a lesson in success from the “go your own way” school of thinking. As things often do when you put artists at the same table, conversation freewheels and spins delightfully off of the rails. A laid-back time with a good friend at the Granddaddy of them All, this was a highlight of Saturday in the Round Six Experience. Big thanks to Jeff for stopping by, hanging out with us, and letting loose for a while. Look for more with Jeff here ion the podcast, and be sure to check out all of the latest cool stuff going on over at Shine Speed Shop and Allison Design by visiting the links below in the show notes. Jeff Allison episode 44


  • The joy of being regular… at any age
  • Jeff taking the position of Creative Design Consultant for Shine Speed Shop – Making your own business cards is a rite of passage
  • An organ stand isn’t a suggestive exercise – Yet another ZZ Top reference on the show
  • Re-branding a company as a day job
  • Utilizing a skill set that many don’t know you possess
  • Return of the Chrysler Airflow
  • Customizing an iconic design – Risk VS reward – Winning Designer’s Choice at Eyes on Design – Revisionist historical tomfoolery for project success – The method design process
  • The gang goes Tiki – Rum-based drinks – Tang finds redemption – The dangers of freeze-dried rum
  • Early art inspiration – CARtoons Magazine, Ed Roth, George Trosley
  • Developing a unique style in a sea of similarly-influenced artists and designers
  • Embracing the digital toolkit
  • Working with Mattel – The Hot Wheels Days – If Hot Wheels weren’t enough, Star Wars Hot Wheels doubles-down on cool – The Jar-Jar concept – The ones that didn’t make it – Actual research VS Robot Chicken-style research – Barbie the destroyer
  • Toy designers want to design real cars; car designers want to design toys
  • There’s always haters
  • The creative process
  • “Compare with…”
  • Jeff goes alternate-dimension on a Jaguar with Rob Ida
  • Jeff plots a simplistic Model A
  • What’s next for Jeff

Episode 43: Gimme All Your Louvers; Dave Lane


Dave Lane. We could probably leave it at that, and images of perfect top chops and stance and wheel and tire combos would dance in your head all night long. You’re about to embark on a journey that brings oh-so-much more. What does a world-class builder build for himself? What part of a build makes or breaks a man? Has he ever been confused with a guy who fishes for Carp? Some things are better left unknown, but we go there for you because we care. In episode forty-three, leading into the Grand National Roadster Show, we sit with Dave Lane and talk humble beginnings, the process of building a great car, and where stye comes from. We dig deep into the psychology of running a one-man shop, attracting and maintaining a steady flow of work from dedicated clients, and then glance long and hard at what saved the industry back in 2008. If you’re just starting out, or even working to restructure your shop or studio or brand, this one is a treasure trove of insight and a case study in the right way to go about it. DAVE-LANE-EPISODE-43


  • Days and days of sanding louvers maketh (or breaketh) a man
  • Attracting the right clients for your shop and build style
  • Retaining a core group of clients
  • How to schedule the next project
  • The value of having your clients communicate with one another – Putting the client at ease – Establishing trustworthiness – Seeking clients who share a similar vision
  • Balancing the car’s budget VS what it needs – Why Dave’s builds don’t have radios
  • Brian throws down the George Poteet/Sparkomatic/Pyramid amp challenge
  • The guys wax nostalgic over a Pioneer Super Tuner and N-50’s
  • A history of building model cars
  • Dave’s first car
  • A chance meeting with Harry Hibler
  • Dave’s affair with the ZZ Top Eliminator coupe – The ZZ Top video litmus test – Brad finds a local tie-in to the “Legs” video – Brian picks on Brad – Every red car was “the ZZ Top car” – The ubiquitous ZZ Top key chain
  • Building a car while working full-time and going to school – Starting out with a Pontiac – Putting every dime into a car project
  • Network design in Germany
  • The wagon – Thirteen thousand miles in three and-a-half months – On building a car with zero expectations – Making memories – The roller skate incident
  • Discussing the importance of staying positive through a project – That feeling of accomplishment overcomes the pain every time
  • Using the overall car as the focal point, versus one or two stand-out parts
  • The thunderous impact of subtlety
  • Moving a ’33 ford grille shell
  • Dave’s first time on a drag strip
  • “Bland when bland wasn’t cool”
  • Building a ’32 roadster in ninety days


  • On training your clients
  • An exploration of “high-dollar” builds – The pricing game – Determining “high-end” VS “entry level” at at what level – Perception of price VS recognition of value – Relativistic pricing – When stainless steel brake line meant that you’d made it
  • How hot rod patrons keep the “car thing” going
  • Survival and growth following 2008 – Keeping twenty-three cars moving forward in a stagnant economy – A love for the hobby and keeping it alive
  • The legitimization of the hobby by Boyd

Episode 42: A Tucci Two-Fer


We finally get the chance to fully explore a shop with a true in-house design with Dave and Dom Tucci, a father-and-son powerhouse from Macy, New York. For twenty-one years, Tucci Hot Rods has been building some of the coolest and most finely-detailed and designed cars on the planet, and have forged a reputation a one of the best. A study in humility, this multi-generational family affair is proof that hard work and being of stand-up character will get you everywhere. With Dom leading the next wave and launching his own company, Dom Tucci Design, he’s embraced modern technology, design sensibilities and processes, and is forging his own name into the hot rod industry and beyond. This isn’t merely an episode that walks down memory lane; it’s a study in relationships both in the shop and beyond, and there is a level of sincere respect that just flows at every turn. So much to be learned here from anyone making their way either into or ahead in the industry, ans a lesson in how to take your lumps with grace. Look for more of these guys in the coming year, as we enjoy the heck out of them, and appreciate their friendship. Hope you enjoy learning more about this incredibly talented and hard-working pair. EPISODE 42 TUCCI


  • Talking NSRA Syracuse giveaway cars
  • Growing up around hot cars and appliance repair
  • The Keith Black-blown HEMI Willys
  • Dave’s first ride, a 529-wedge motor-powered Falcon – Cruising Genesee Street
  • Working on appliances by day, hot rods by night
  • Rob Ida’s skills are everywhere… even this episode
  • Family discussion leads to hot rod building as a career
  • The green GMC that put the shop on the map
  • The fight to feature the truck
  • A twenty-eight and nineteen year old take a truck to SEMA • Hand-rolling FIVE-THOUSAND posters
  • Repairing a broken show truck on the road – Alone in San Francisco, no luggage… and Roy Brizio to the rescue
  • The VERY last-minute SEMA thrash
  • The Fiesta project for Ford – Establishing a relationship with the manufacturer
  • Dom discusses school and earning his degree in Industrial Design
  • The power of networking and bringing in the right players to your team
  • The growth and ever-expanding capabilities of Dom Tucci Design
  • Building sword guards
  • Brian triggers Dave’s hatred of rust
  • Salt dust – Like Bonneville without the cool
  • Salt-ternatives – “Pickle-scented roads!”
  • Playing with windshields, Tucci Hot Rods style
  • The Nomad
  • Breaking the story on the Syracuse Nationals giveaway car!
  • 181MPH first pass
  • Coolant on fire!
  • Alex gets salty

Episode 41: Josh Mishler, Codename Chromefinger


We start the new year with a fresh season of the podcast, and our first guest of 2019 is a guy who was one of the first on Brian’s list, Josh Mishler. Having started his career very young, writing for the Goodguys Gazette at seventeen years old, and moving up the ranks in the magazine world, Josh has a lot to offer by way of career advice. If you’re a young writer or photographer looking to break into the field, you can learn a lot from his story. It’s hard work, tenacity, a willingness to learn and networking. Josh is a guy who defines “truly connected” in the industry, and is a testament to how being a considerate, hard-working member of the community can pave the way to a long and fulfilling career. We get into tips and tricks to help make your custom plating experience a breeze, too. A value-packed episode indeed. chromefinger episode 41 josh mishler


  • The big August fire at Advanced Plating – Resilience in the hot rod industry – Looking back on the flood of 2010
  • On starting out in the Hot Rod Industry
  • Climbing the ladder in automotive publications – The importance of thanking those who helped to get that first foothold
  • Writing for Goodguys Gazette at seventeen years old
  • Josh’s career path and a lot of great advice for anyone looking to make their break – On “knowing someone” – Shadowing the legendary Steve Anderson – The value of learning as you go – From Goodguys to Buckaroo –On looking up to Scott Killeen’s work and meeting him – Learning more over a weekend than at school – Freelancing while still in school
  • The whole midwest explosion – Location, location, location
  • First publication in The Rodder’s Journal
  • Differences in shooting in the studio to outdoors
  • Nightmares about lighting
  • Brian picks on Brad’s lighting set-up
  • Josh on school – A discussion of completing a degree – Josh and Brian on presenting nothing but automotive art through school – The value of a rounded education through formal lasses – The benefit of formal critiques strengthen and prepare you for having a sense of reality about your work – On being diverse in your skill set
  • On being elected to the SEMA Hot Rod Industry Alliance, and taking over the Education Days at the NSRA Street Rod Nationals – Josh’s focus on educating and promoting the industry to the youth – Granting knowledge from industry leaders for free to those willing to learn – Making knowledge accessible to all to help solve common issues


  • Josh and Brian reminisce about finishes on the Nailed Buick by Rad Rides – On pushing the envelope with finishes being used in unique ways – The hard work that goes into satin and brushed finishes
  • Tips for prepping parts for plating – Make a detailed packing list – Disassemble parts s far as you can – Don’t grind; electrostrip – Don’t grind your welds – On filling and the copper stage – It’s all about the prep work
  • Don’t say “dip it” to a chrome plater
  • “Show chrome” VS “Triple Plating” – Any bumper is going to have at least three passes though plating; “show” refers to the extra prep work
  • Hexavalent VS Trivalent chrome plating – How the nickel solution affects the finish – Chrome is a transparent deposit
  • Exploring chrome quality by application
  • How quality trumps factory-authentic flaws today in a restoration
  • “Aged chrome” meets Alex with “chrometina”
  • Plating parts for cars competing at the highest level
  • Tossing salads… around
  • Josh’s infatuation with Chrysler letter cars, and finally purchasing a ’57 300 convertible – Fearing the loss of the car in the big fire – Sacrificing a ’32 pickup and a ’57 Chrysler hardtop for the ragtop – Doing all of this while his wife was pregnant with their second child

Episode 40: The Year in Review


The Gearheads take a look back at 2018, and do their best version of a 1990’s sit-com, and relive the past thirty-nine episodes, the events, travels and terrible puns that made 2018 well… this past year.

HUGE thanks to our friends and family for supporting us as we launched this mess, and to Carson for the representation, guidance, and for pushing us through a few big doors.

To you, our amazing listeners, fans, followers and friends both old and new… THANK YOU. You’ve been there through growing pains, bad audio, questionable jokes, and technical struggles. We get better both because of and for you.

Thanks for being there over the past year, and we hope that you’ll be along for the amazing ride ahead. Good things happening… And that’s because of you.

Merry Christmas, and happy New Year. May yours be full of good health, happiness an peace. Well, except for when those opening bars of the podcast wind up and blast into your ear holes.

We can’t wait to fill them again in just a couple of weeks.

Our sincerest gratitude once again,

Brian, Brad and Alex

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  • Every episode, event and a keen look back at some of our favorite moments from the first thirty-nine episodes

Episode 39: Copyright and IP with Carson Lev


Carson Lev once again joins the Gearheads for an evening of learning. This time, we’re starting an on-going series on Intellectual Property, Copyright an brand management, all aimed squarely at helping artists and designers to protect their work, and lay the foundation for a career. We’re joined by co-host Del Swanson, who is nearing completion on his long-term project which has taken him away from the show for a bit, and it’s great having him back with us.

While not an exhaustive course nor a complete resource, this episode gives advice, and sets any artist or designer up with the basics to begin protecting their work, and ensuring that they’re making the work work for them long-term. This will develop over time into an ever-expanding series, and we’ll be bringing in industry professionals, brand managers and even legal counsel to help you navigate the territory. We hope you’ll join us, as we look forward to bringing this and so much more to you in the coming year.

If you’re an artist just starting out, or have been established for some time but may be a bit cloudy on Copyright and Trademark and IP, then this is a great jumping-off point for you. Remember: You may be an artist first and foremost; but don’t discount the fact that you are an artist in business.

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  • Brian drops the sugar-coated approach, and dives right in
  • Return of the running ball gag joke
  • Carson Lev joins the gang
  • Del stops in following his world-wide Viking tour
    – The joys of rapping and pillaging while wearing  horned hat
  • Discussing the effects of stolen artwork on the artist
    – The frustration of dealing with Amazon, on issues of Copyright
  • The dilemma of putting work out there to promote VS protecting the art
  • Learning the difference between types of agreements
    – Work for Hire VS Consulting Agreement VS Production Agreement VS Licensing or Transfer of Rights
  • The critical importance of properly crafting your agreements
  • Learning licensing by fire
    – Working in licensing for the giants
  • Are you producing work to be transferred to the client, or licensing it?
  • On making protection affordable for artists just starting out
  • International Copyright and formal ownership on the world stage
  • Chip’s work as example:
    – Realizing the difference between building a car or a library of images to capitalize on
  • Value and its attachment to the work
    – Added value versus surface value
  • Playing “hide the sausage” for fun and profit
    – “Phallic extortion” becomes a thing… thanks, Alex
  • Infringement abroad
    – International filing
    – High cost may not even provide protection due to lack of enforcement by foreign governments
    – When a foreign government encourages counterfeiting among its people
  • Del goes worldwide
  • Brian hatches a business plan
  • “Getting a check in the mail is the sincerest form of flattery”
  • When doing work to not take credit is the better way
    – Scaling recognition VS money
    – Artist as a tool versus a craftsman
    – Art VS design, goal-wise
    – Sometimes you’re better judged by what you won’t do


  • On paying for the experience that leads to the level of work, not simply the physical hours to create it
  • Setting a plan and knowing when and how to alter it and let it evolve
  • On retaining the IP and reproduction rights of a design versus just building the car
  • Perception of the market once a name is established
    – Ridler-winning shops that go dry because people think that’s all they do
    – When reality TV alters the brand message
  • How having a contract places you at a higher threshold and align you with more like-minded clients
  • The Disney Cars Land example of fair contract and creative license
  • Work-for-Hire with recognition can pay higher dividends than owning the IP in some cases
    – When the “cool factor” is a bonus and how to recognize that
  • Transactional VS transformative relationships
  • “Your next raise will be effective when you are.”

Episode 38: Steve Cook Creations, Simple is Hard to Do


Steve Cook Creations has a reputation of building incredibly clean, detailed and subtle cars, and on episode thirty-eight, the Gearheads got a chance to sit down and talk with Steve, his son Mike, and Alan Childers. We dove deep into the design sense and philosophy of the build team. Steve lays out a lot of insight and perspective on cars as a passion, and the realities of building them as a career. Yep, realities. There’s a lot more dimension to putting together an award-winning vehicle, especially when it’s for repeat clients who are every bit as passionate about their cars.

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  • Steve talks about the passion of building cars
  • The importance of focusing on quality in every aspect of a build
  • Early automotive influences
  • A great comparison of generations and the sources of their influences
  • Alan’s early inspiration via the magazine aisle at the supermarket
    – WyoTech and an art degree come together
  • Cars run deep in the Cook family
  • From motorcycle acing to Mom the Machinist
  • Struggling with being a workaholic
    – Trying to find a life-balance
  • Being “so quiet, it’s scary”
  • The life of an introverted car builder in a very social society
  • “Simple is hard to do”
    – Keeping things clean, neatly-packaged and subtle
  • When Dad doesn’t understand modern color choices
  • Building cars from memory
  • Make everything look like it belongs
  • Revisiting the theme of the car as a whole, from stance and overall look to the sound and more
  • “Smell the ozone coming off of that electric car!”
  • The fine art of patience on a build
    – Keeping things moving forward over a three to five year build
    – The evolution of a project over time
  • On building a car that turns out to be ahead of its time
    – Staying conscious of the car’s “right” timing
  • On the value of research and communication in the shop
  • Where inspiration lies and gets dug up from
  • How being old school lends a unique thumbprint to build style
  • The honor of being selected for a SEMA panel, and making the most of being the “odd man out” sometimes
  • Building what the client remembers the car being, even if it is miles apart in terms of fit, finish and performance
  • Hand-whittling a Duvall windshield by hand over in the corner
  • The “hot rod family”
  • Brian lays out the plan for the zero-gravity paint booth

Episode 37: Brian Lohnes, High Pants Drifter


The Gearheads were honored to welcome the man with the golden voice, Brian Lohnes. Recently named as the Lead Anchor in all NHRA TV broadcasts next year, it’s a dream come true of sorts for a guy who grew up watching it on television. More than just the sum of his manly chest, neck and head that you’ll see on race coverage, he’s a man with gasoline and room-temperature shrimp in his veins.

We talk early days, from his first thoughts (“hey, it’s much colder out here!”) through College, writing for car magazines, and eventually to television. We laugh, we cry, we explore, we invent things, and then we plot a reunion in three to five years. In many ways, it’s a lot like prison, but without most of the pesky romance.

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  • Things start off perpendicular to the finish line
  • The “snowball” effect of episode thirty-seven
  • MOPAR guys are the Star Trek fans of the drag racing world
    – The 10,000 RPM limit and HEMI engines
    – Birth of the Polish Pentastar Program (“Number one in Hamtramck!”)
  • On being named as the voice of NHRA Drag Racing
  • The ever-changing demographics of racing and the show here
  • Debut of the Ira Spiderman Old Man-nequin
  • No car enthusiast group is safe from generational ridicule
  • Room temperature shrimp
  • The greatest scam in the history of scams at the University of Massachusetts
    – A Pre-Med, a Pre-Law, an Engineering and an Art History major score a College-sponsored race car
    – The road to announcing is paved with road racing
  • The requirement of looking out of the window versus at a computer screen
  • Moving from IHRA to NHRA
  • Steve Gibbs gives a big break
  • The constant battle of not crying
  • On “not Hindenburging” the show
    – The dangers of mentioning skin maladies in color commentary
    – How digestive jokes will make you the next Dave McLelland
    – Eczema as a career-killer
  • The reality of an announcing tryout
  • The gang goes “Aristocrats”
  • The value of doing your research before calling an event
  • Launching Bangshift and its predecessors
  • A t-shirt with “BS” emblazoned on it
    – The value of a URL like in today’s dollars
  • Why people from Buffalo are the toughest ones on the planet
  • Put Up or Shut Up
  • The Gearheads make their Race to the Moon pitch
    – Private space programs as entertainment
    – Ultimate Capture the Flag TV show idea
  • Searching for old drag strips
    – Brian suggests an Ancient Aliens crossover

Episode 36: Roger Hickey, Gravity and Coyotes


The Gearheads host entrepreneur, world record-holding gravity racer, aerodynamic expert, inventor and coyote attack survivor, Roger Hickey.

If you’ve never gone downhill on a skateboard at one-hundred miles per hour, been mistaken for an alien craft, or lit off your dad’s fuel car in the garage at eight years old, then you’re not our guest on this episode. Much like the Highlander, there can be only one Roger Hickey, and by golly, are we stoked to have spent the evening with him. From his days as an undefeated gravity racer to his current quest to help a stock-bodies 1953 Studebaker run 400MPH, the guy has nerves of steel, and has broken more bones than Brad has read books. And he’s a ton of fun, too. Lots to learn in this episode, so buckle in, and enjoy this downhill blast.

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  • “Cheese Guard”/Cheese garden
  • Evel Knievel Lite
  • Coming out of retirement to compete for a world championship after winning twenty of them previously
    – “Your old shit ain’t gonna fly here”
    – One hundred miles per hour on a skateboard
  • Let that last one sink in
  • Early attempts at downhill on Kellogg Hill
  • Filming a GTE Superbowl commercial
    – Being mistaken for an alien
  • The case of the fuel car and the babysitter
  • “The boat story”
  • A history of speed in the family
    – Racing since three years old
  • “Control all of your variables and you can’t lose”
  • The high degree of concentration required in gravity racing
  • Researching and engineering in the pre-internet days
    – The school of “crash and learn”
  • The invention of Street Luge on Glendora Mountain
    – F1 car inspiration
  • Getting bit by a coyote at speed
  • “Every rule has an elastic waistband”


  • Portable skateboard ramps
  • Composites return to the podcast!
    – More pre-internet experimentation leads to innovation
  • Setting Electric Car World Championship records… and then some
  • The Hickey Law
  • The science and theory behind cryogenics
  • Running 326MPH on a 238MPH record with a stock-bodied 1953 Studebaker
  • 6.000 HP on bald tires
  • The modular streamliner design
  • Return of the Saltomasochist
  • “A chess match of nitro and exploding things”

Episode 35: PPG and Camp Wannapaintem


The Gearheads went deep into the woods of the 2018 SEMA Show, and wandered into Camp Wannapaintem, PPG‘s latest show-stopping display. We were fortunate to fall under the guidance of camp counselors Cristina Fronzaglia Murray and Jeremy Seanor (of Lucky Strike Designs). We sat for a while and discussed paint technology, creativity, marketing, and the importance of passion Most important of all was the lesson that paint is fun. It’s not merely a tool or just  coating, but a vehicle in and of itself, capable of launching careers and forging lifelong friendships. Even after a certain podcaster suggests a prison-themed trade show booth.

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  • Talking SEMA Show booth themes
    – Gathering items to decorate the booth
  • The “Homeless Chic” John Jackson
  • Where inspiration lives
  • Jeremy paints a canoe
  • Our own Brad’s connection to a past themed booth
  • A terribly inappropriate booth theme idea made presentable
  • Brian chooses a favorite among his sons
  • How to turn a group of adults into a bunch of three year olds (HINT: it involves whistles)
  • Paint is fun
  • Experiencing color in different ways
  • Waterborne and Envirobase paint technology versus solvent-based
    – Adapting the new tech to creative paint
    – Progressing with paint technology in both collision and custom work
  • The changing times:
    – Hot-plating enamels and crushing pigment from leaves
    – Moving cure times from cigarettes between coats to social posts between coats
  • The longevity of Deltron
    – Hosting a fourteen year old paint job in the booth illustrates quality like nothing else
  • Booth design as a team-building exercise
  • The value of not having to be engaged in the “SEMA crunch”
  • Brian offers the then-thousand dollar marketing idea
  • History of the PPG theme booths
  • A custom painter reunion of sorts every year in the booth
  • “The greatest paint in the world, used by the greatest painters”
    – The value and appreciation of humility
  • The “prison” theme booth
    – Alex offers the idea of carving a shiv from a paint stir stick
  • More great booth theme ideas:
    – “Paint Church”
    – “Rascal in a China Shop”
    – “Barefoot on Legos”


  • On the importance of being yourself and making mistakes
    – Career growth through understanding passions
  • Teaching the technical aspect, and the inability to teach passion
  • Four-year education versus hands-on trades
  • The value of a combination of traditional school degrees and trade school/knowledge
  • The misinterpretation of trades being just “dirty work”
  • Recognizing the minds and hands that aren’t meant to sit in a classroom, but rather need to be out doing things
  • The epitome of “self-made”

Episode 34: SEMA Show 2018


SEMA Show 2018 winds down, and the Gearheads were granted some pretty hefty access. We took some time to sit and discuss the show from the Magnaflow stage in Hot Rod Alley. We wanted to thank some old friends, recognize some new ones, and reflect on what was easily the most memorable show in any of our memories.

SEMA Show 2018


  • The dreaded “SEMA legs” syndrome
  • Cue napkins and dirty words
  • Brad is really old
  • Our favorite vehicles of the show
  • Tim Strange is awesome at hosting vehicle debuts
  • The Squarebody Syndicate Indy Tribute truck
  • Tuesdays with Chip
  • The hot rod family
  • Set-up logistics
    – The weirdness of wandering the SEMA Show floor on Sunday
    – From typhoon to fully-carpeted halls
  • Carson makes it happen
  • The Syndicate Series t-shirt boxes
  • The Engle Brothers slip into yet another episode
  • SEMA Show Zamboni adds to the ambiance
  • Judging the BASF best paint award with Chip Foose
    – Getting a private tour of Impostor
  • Chip’s C/28
  • Strope’s Olds
  • The Speedkore carbon fiber Charger
  • The art of walking ten miles per day
  • The thunder of flip-flops and nylon bags

Episode 33: The Fiber at the Speedkore; David Salvaggio and Lyle Brummer


The Gearheads grabbed a few valuable minutes of pre-SEMA Show thrash time to sit with David Salvaggio and Lyle Brummer of Speedkore. To say that we walked in as fans of their work would be understandable. Walking out of the studio as fans of their character and knowledge, well, that’s a no-brainer. Fantastically fun, intelligent and humble guys who are pushing the envelope with technology to build some of the coolest cars out there.

We dig into the business, the tech, the cars, and the carbon fiber in this informative, exciting and laid-back episode.

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  • The week-before-SEMA-Show thrash
  • The logistics of bringing five vehicles to the show
    – Last minute details and avoiding mishaps
    – Working with carbon fiber and the supply chain demands thereof
  • Discussing the early automotive influences of Dave and Lyle
    – Wisconsin is proving to be a fertile land for breeding hot rodders
    – David’s Grandfather came from Sicily in the early4-1900’s and built and raced cars at Indy (1929)
  • Lyle’s start in cars came later in life
    – Began with engineering and technology
    – Speedkore’s commitment to bringing in the next generation
  • On driving in snow
    – A pitch for the Jamaican Rally Car Team
  • The start of Speedkore
    –On building a scalable business model
    – The problem of sourcing and retaining talent
    – The benefits and advantages of carbon fiber parts and manufacturing them
  • Forays into the motion picture world
    – Providing cars for The Fast and Furious franchise
  • The Chris Evans Camaro
    – The Robert Downey Jr. connection
  • Return of cars as the great equalizer and common language
  • The great things about carbon fiber
  • A degree in Marketing VS working with your hands
  • Digging into the manufacturing and design process
  • On the value of experience over formal classroom time
    – Induction to the Society of Automotive Engineers on a fourth-grade education
  • Talking about the Evolution Charger that will debut next week at the SEMA Show in Las Vegas
  • A discussion of design and the tactile experience
  • Advice for up-and-coming designers

Episode 32: Zane-al Retentiveness and the Cullen-ary Art of Hot Rods


The Gearheads spent the evening with our good friend Zane Cullen of Cotati Speed Shop. He’s a Goodguys Trendsetter, a Grand National Roadster Show Hall of Fame member, a father and husband. Zane is also a new product judge at the SEMA Show. And one of the three behind the Triple Gun of Excellence Award at GNRS alongside Darryl Hollenbeck and Charley Hutton.

We dig deep into the science of running a successful hot rod shop, personnel management and horribly inappropriate jokes. And probably some other things we should have edited. Our lack of detail is your gain.

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  • Conversation immediately goes all SEMA
  • Talking radical 1968 Camaros
  • Getting outside of the box of “expected” build styles
  • Getting deep into the HR aspect of running a shop
    – Finding the right personnel
    – The importance of communication
    – Balancing the talking with listening
  • Effective communication between shop and client
  • Evolution of a brand and a business plan
  • The genesis of the shop
  • The evolutionary process and continual improvement
    – Competing against yourself to raise the bar internally
  • Growing from two to sixteen team member
    – Thinning the herd to keep things manageable
    – Finding the “magic number” in the shop to keep things moving in the right direction
    – Maintaining a good staff
    – The importance of getting along
    – Keeping a focus on the work VS making things personal
  • On retaining a client base during the busy times
  • Finding a balance between directing and welcoming creative input
    – Building a complementary team of creative visionaries and detail-minded craftsmen
  • Working to manage egos and behaviors as well as work output
  • The importance of not forgetting the people involved on a project
    – Taking the good with the bad
  • Things go decidedly sexy
  • Brian tales his share of abuse this time
  • “You can’t spell TEAM without T-E-A…”
  • Appreciating your team and employees


  • Behind the scenes at SEMA, judging new products with Dave Tucci and Tim Strange
    – Having the opportunity to actually see the new products at a show dedicated to new products
    – Finding the worst of the rest
    – Brian develops the “Tick-Lock-Tach”
    – Alex investigates the market potential of a build sheet removal tool/kit
    – There may or may not have been discussion of a plot for an automotive-based heist film
  • It all goes terrifyingly sideways
    – The return of the “prison wallet”
  • Rounding up new clients for a shop
  • Remembering a client who recently passed
  • Round Six’s fresh spin on SEMA Show debuts
    – Trusting Brian’s creative vision

Episode 31: Rappin' with Robert McGaffin


The Gearheads spend an evening with Robert McGaffin. He’s an Automotive Photographer, industry good guy, friend and the Creative Director and co-Founder of Wheel Hub Magazine. From early days building and shooting model cars to school and a carer in Commercial Photography, Robert has some varied experience. Yet it all comes back to cars.

The guys over at Robert’s latest venture, Wheel Hub Magazine have been gracious in extending an offer to listeners of the Round Six Podcast. Head on over to their website at and you’ll receive a two-for-one special. Huge thanks to them, and to you, our listeners for your support.

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  • Growing up in Wisconsin
    – From puddle of goo to model glue
  • An early start shooting model cars with an Instamatic
  • From College to Commercial Photography
  • Burning dust with studio lighting
  • Astrophotography
  • Early influences
  • First trip to the SEMA Show
  • Favorite cars of all-time
    – Rad Rides’ Chicayne
  • Riffing on motorsports photography
    – Rally driving
    – Isle of Man TT
  • Really niche photography
  • Brian’s strange surgical history
  • Rob’s Steve Strope story
  • Brad takes a few more lumps
  • Robert’s ’65 Olds project
  • On the dynamics of print VS digital coverage
  • Launching Wheel Hub Magazine
    – Assembling the team
    – Creating the Beta
    – Developing the look
    – Selling ad space
    – The launch at GNRS
  • On keeping it fresh when shooting the same car multiple times for multiple publications
  • When a car owner wants nothing to do with a magazine
  • Making do and improvising on a shoot
  • On cameras and equipment
  • Teaching four-week photography programs
  • The importance of quality lenses over the latest and greatest camera body
  • Suggestions for beginning photographers
    – Happy accidents and learning on the fly
  • The forthcoming Round Six Massage Parlor editorial
    – Alex gets a new job description
    – A “full release” of pure disappointment
  • Things to look forward to at the SEMA Show

Episode 30: The Jimi Day Experience


Brad was off on a top-secret mission at Steve Strope‘s place, and that left Alex and Brian to do their thing. It was the perfect time to grab a guest we’ve wanted to have on for some time, Jimi Day of FM3 Marketing. We’re just weeks out from the SEMA Show, and it was a nice, relaxing evening talking to one of the amazing people behind may of the absolutely mind-blowing automotive events which his company produces and promotes.

If there’s any truth to the old adage of a podcast hitting its peak in their thirties, well, they’re starting off with a bang around here. Welcome to the big three-oh, kids.

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  • Jimi on planning an event
    – The planning process for an event
    – The “event plan”
    – Moving from the event plan to the playbook
  • Jimi’s headband
  • The planning timeline
  • Search for the Ultimate Street Car
  • On building an NHRA-quality track on Woodward Avenue for a one-day event
  • Brian plots the Altamont of car events
  • On eliminating surprises and executing in the moment as necessary
  • On the old days of car shows VS the modern
  • From Imagine Motorsports and investment-grade restorations to driving cars
    – Preservation vs enjoyment
  • FM3 Road Trip Cars and Cones
    – The incredible concept behind the event
    – Sign up for 2019 at
  • How investment banking bred confidence
  • The gut/brain connection and how to utilize it
  • Getting outside of your comfort zone to create something new
  • Drive Auto X
    – Getting  people involved
    – All about seat time (12-14 runs per day!)
    – No more shagging cones
  • On exit strategies and economic indicators
    – Planning on the fly
  • The Pony Car Steeplechase Challenge is pitched

For more information, or if you;re looking to create your own signature event, please reach out to Jimi and his amazing team at, or hit Jimi direct on email at
For information on the Drive Auto X program, please hit

Episode 29: A Well-Executed Fart, Steve Strope


The Gearheads spend the evening talking with the always opinionated, always fascinating and extremely insightful Steve Strope of Pure Vision Design. We talked cars, bass guitar, Millennials and even splitting wood… And it all came back to a central point: Just get out there and do something. Steve isn’t one to mince words, and his motivational style is representative of his East Coast upbringing, which he and show host Brian share. From Summers mowing lawns to Winters spent shoveling, a kid learns to hustle. Steve has made that into an art form, applying that work ethic to the humblest of beginnings with his own shop.

It’s not all fun and laughs, as the conversation gets a bit deep into family matters, adoption, health issues and more, but Steve’s impressive and contagiously positive attitude make for one heck of a learning experience.

An incredible episode with a dynamic guest.

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  • Steve on reality TV
    – His new show “Hand Built Hot Rods”
    – Joe Rogan’s Nova
    – “The fall of Camelot”
  • Talking projects in the shop
  • Where Millennials can send their job applications
  • Making the move to the West Coast from New York
  • The black Camaro that got Steve into cars
  • Growing up in a small town
    – A grammar school Road Runner art project
    – “This is my drug”
  • Cars are not a “phase”
    – Retaining the excitement
  • It all starts with BMX bikes
    – Steve’s vintage BMX bike collection
  • The power of great inspiration
  • Doing what you have to do
    – Building a car in a parking garage
    – “I wanted to bad enough”
  • Heading on power tour with a Kinko’s-made promo pack
  • Family life
    – On finding out he was adopted
  • Character-building stuff
    – Yard work and responsibility
    – Mowing the lawn as therapy
    – Porno crop circles
  • On music
    – Playing bass guitar
    – Starting with a short bass purchased by his Mom at a garage sale
  • Commuting from
    – Living next door to the beach house from Top Gun
  • A day in the life of Steve
  • Starting out
    – The struggles of sleeping where you build
  • On riding the “trend pony”
    – Personal pride in a build
  • Hot Rodding in Bill’s Eye in Street Rodder
    – Hot rods as the great social equalizer
  • Brad’s Grindr profile

Episode 28: It’s About the People: Brian Brennan (and Naked Street Rodders )


The Gearheads sit down and talk all things street and hot rodding with Brian Brennan. As the man with fifty years at the helm of some of the leading magazines in the industry, he has a few tales to tell. Suffice to say, this one is loaded with incredible stories. We go deep into his experiences with legends like Pete Chapouris, Little John Buttera and more, and even get into the life lessons of hot rodding.

Looking toward he future, we come to realize that the industry is doing just fine, and that the hobby is on the path it needs to be to keep kids involved… Even if they’re not into the same cars their parents may have been. Learning just what a positive and adaptable attitude Brian has, it’s easy to see why he has had such a successful career: His finger is squarely on the pulse.



  • The four steps of the magazine business
    – Inform
    – Educate
    – Participate
    – Report
  • We talk about podcasting and what it means to the hot rod industry
  • Brian Brennan launches his podcast “Barn Finds with Brian Brennan”
  • Tales of Little John on the tenth anniversary of his passing
    – Road trippin’ with Buttera
    – Sleep all day, drive all night
    – On being self-taught
    – Starting the billet movement
    – The on-again/off-again Boyd/Brizio relationships
    – On the whole thing being about the people, not the cars
  • The hot rod thing and mortality
    – Brian shares some very personal insight
  • Tales of the Colorado State Trooper
  • Thirteen treks across the county in a roadster
    – People just want to talk cars
  • Brought into the business by Tex Smith
  • Naked street rodders (and drive-by moonings!)
  • Current and coming trends
    – On the popularity of classic trucks
    – Squarebody Chevy trucks
    – The resurgence of the pre-’49 cars
  • On shooting features
    – How social media has altered things
    – On shooting a feature at a show vs on-site
  • Choosing a favorite event
  • The Triple Crown of Rodding
  • Judging for national awards
    – Building the judging team
    – Moving from traditional “show cars” to hot rods in AMBR
    – On the return of chrome brake rotors
  • Opening the model year cut-off in Street Rodder Magazine
  • On a 300+ page issue of Street Rodder
  • On what the new trends may be
  • Why Brian’s screwdrivers are dipped in rubber
  • On the importance of paying dues as a car guy prior to writing about cars
  • On starting out as a muscle car/drag racing guy
  • Fodder for stories
  • Hot Rods as life skills
    – The fine art of bartering
  • The $1/gallon orange paint
  • Return of the return of the junk yard trawl
  • On retaining/inspiring youth involvement in the hobby and industry
  • The pennies-on-the-dollar hot rod resale market and how it’s actually bolstering the hobby
  • Brad’s Semaphore skills

Episode 27: From No Brakes to the 200 MPH Club With Mike LeFevers


The Gearheads sit down and talk engines, Bonneville records and more with famed racing engine builder and machinist Mike Lefevers of Mitech Racing Engines. He’s  soft-spoken guy with some serious history. LeFevers was the Engine Development Director at Carroll Shelby Enterprises, spent five years in Gale Banks Engineering engine department, and was involved in the Buick Indianapolis program. He’s not only the Treasurer of Save the Salt and Secretary of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club, he’s also a life member of the latter.

He is the LeFevers part of the Kugel/LeFevers 1992 Firebird, which was the first production-bodied automobile to exceed and set a record over 300 mph in 1999. And it has power windows. Just like Mike, it’s full of surprises.

200 MPH Club


  • Recreating the ’79 Kugel engine to reset the record
  • Mechanical injection and twin turbos on alcohol
  • Early beginnings with a ’56 Crown Vic… and no brakes
  • Losing eyebrows while tuning cars
  • On learning in the driveway
  • The value of reading what is pertinent to your interests
  • A foot in the door at Gale Banks Engineering
  • Being mentored by Wally Cartwright
  • Heading to Bonneville with Geisler
  • A very special Hanky-Panky
  • First runnings at Bonneville with Bruce Geisler
  • The Sundowner Corvette
    – 255 MPH in a stock-bodied ’68!
  • The first stock-bodied car to go 300MPH – The Kugel/LeFevers Firebird
  • Getting family involved
    – Working to get his sons into the 200 MPH Club
  • A record-breaking year at Bonneville Speed Week
  • SCCA and Trans Am involvement
  • Putting his own shop on hold
  • The Shelby years
    – Investigating the Chrysler V6 engine failures in the Shelby Can Am racing program
    – Started as an engine builder on the Cobra Continuation Series
    – Development of new heads (the aluminum VS iron head argument)
    – Developing, casting and building new 427’s
    – Working with Carroll Shelby
    – Shelby was more of a businessman than a tech guy
    – Lee Iacocca killed the Shelby DOHC 4V 427 Ford cylinder head program
  • Mike’s thoughts on the great engineering of the Ford 427 SOHC
  • On building small and big-block Chevy engines
  • The “idiot-proof” nature of the LS engine
  • Vipers and the recession
    – Development of dry-sump systems and intake manifolds
    – What is it with this guy and snakes?!
  • On gauging the health of the industry via your customer base
  • Modern tech VS old-school know-how
  • The importance of knowing the source of your research materials
  • Building the engine to the car

Episode 26: SEMA, Projects, Kit Cars and Churros


Episode twenty-six goes all sorts of places as Brian, Brad and Alex discuss projects of the artistic and four-wheeled sort. They preview the SEMA Show preview, talk churros and racecar sponsorships, and then it all goes weird with kit car talk and celebrity tribute parts.

It’s been a while since we just sat and talked, and thought it was a good time to lay back a bit prior to the buildup to SEMA madness.

SEMA weird


  • Brian goes all “Show Host”
  • Brad talks streamliner sponsorships
    – The Salt-O-Masochist
  • PR disasters
  • A blurry blue lightning bolt
    – Terrible racecar sponsor team-ups
    – …and some memorable ones
  • Things that rhyme with “six piston”
  • “Don’t worry; it’s not you.”
  • Brian runs out of side effects
  • The SEMA preview, well, preview
  • Bacon-wrap and pumpkin spice all of the things. Except for the churros.
  • Alex’s ’64 Chevy project
    – Finding the truck
    – Then come the bees and spiders
  • Alex talks plumbing and wiring
  • Brad steals the truck and lowers it
  • How patina won on this truck
  • Checklists on a project
    – Brad calls back to his Dad’s el Camino
  • Customizing a car is a slippery slope
  • Restoration meets hot rodding
  • The joy of wiring and plumbing
  • Alex’s first project
  • The infamous 1969 Camaro
  • The lowest production number ’71 Camaro RS
  • The guys go all kit car
  • “The Lisper”

Episode 25: Throwing Back a few Torts with Chris Jacobs


Episode twenty-five is a reunion of sorts on a few levels, as the Gearheads take a few minutes to catch up with a friend of the podcast, Chris Jacobs. An actor-turned television host, he’s most well-known in our industry and hobby from his work on Overhaulin’ with another good friend of the show, Chip Foose, as well as one of the roaming personalities at the Barrett-Jackson auctions.

Boasting a variety of roles on TV shows like The X-Files, Two and a Half Men, and even V.I.P. with Pamela Anderson, where he played a surfing Doctor. Yeah the guy has done a lot of really cool stuff. He’s  blast to hang out with, and is just a genuine, good human and a true credit to the hobby.

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  • Brian sings the praises of the TSP-7411XR Mk V FriendMaker telescope for “keeping in touch”
  • Things get litigious early in this episode
  • Whoring a podcast intro for all its worth
  • Long Lost Family enters its fourth season
    – The parallels between Long Lost Family and Overhaulin’
    – Chris’ personal connection to the show
    – “It’s me without a hat”
    – How timing plays an important role in the show and in life
  • Inspired to enjoy cars via his brothers’ cars
  • Auditioning for the role of host on Overhaulin’
    – Avoiding the drama
    – The freeing aspect of zero drama
    – From seven to twenty-nine episodes
    – On establishing a genre
    – The impact the show had on building a career
  • Hosting the on-site vehicle coverage at Barrett-Jackson
    – Another A-team entirely
  • The unforeseen dangers of a stolen car prank
    – A gun is pulled
    – “This is really real now”
    – Zero poop
    – The unflappable Chip
    – Loco Chip (“The Evil Gang of Solvang”)
    – A shout-out to Scott for not altering hot rod history
  • The 1987 Grand National
    – The magic radio
  • Chris’ 1968 GTX
    – 392 swap by Mark Worman and the crew at Graveyard Carz
    – To be auctioned at Brrett-Jackson Scottsdale in 2020, with proceeds to benefit Special Operations Warrior Foundation
    – Chris’ sincere value of service personnel
  • The salad days of Chris’ acting career
    – Dr. “Banzai” Kovacs. IMDB it.
    – The joys of residual checks
    – On acting as a career with a fallback career in place
  • SEMA Show 2018

Episode 24: Mullets to Billet with Brad Fanshaw


Episode twenty-four gets right into it with the man behind more cool stuff than you can shake a billet guitar at. Brad Fanshaw has launched action sports brands, managed the most well-known hot rod shop in the universe, and was the first to take an automotive aftermarket company public.

He hosts a couple of well-known podcasts: Man Seeks Adventure (with Dave Marek and Heather Storm) and Shift and Steer (with co-hosts Aaron Hagar & Matt D’Andria; and formerly with the late Pete Chapouris), along with producing television shows like Car Warriors and The Car Chasers.

The guys sit and talk marketing, branding, and the value of an experience and not simply having a product, as well as gleaning valuable tips and tricks for making the most of your SEMA Show experience.

Brad Fanshaw Episode 24


  • Entomology, Shrek 4D and a Dorian Gray reference
  • Early VW influence once again surfaces on an episode
  • Brad’s first car
    – Having the fastest car in High School
    – Making twenty bucks street racing before homeroom
    – The vintage Pro Street parts stockpile
  • A sidetrack leads to gold Moroso valve covers
  • Memories of header installs
    – Accessory bracket spacers
    – The joys of constant re-torquing
  • Brad’s orange thing
  • It all starts with BMX in our industry
    – The freedom of transport and self-expression
  • Running ABA and organizing Nationals
    – The joys of running a front loader
    – The Orange Fairgrounds incident
    – Blame it on the monster truck guys
  • Being “productively destructive”
  • Taking Vision Street Wear from $10M to $125M in five years
    – Genesis of The X Games
    – Running the largest television production company in Orange County
    – From action sports to a Boyds clothing line
  • Cadzilla leaves the shop, Brad comes in
    • Building the Hot Rods by Boyd empire
      – The value of first-class marketing in a new frontier
      – Laying the groundwork to bring in investment capital
      – Reaching outside of the automotive world to retain the hot rod spirit
  • Brian proposes a Virtual Reality Venture Capital pitch
  • Starting a watch company


  • The value of technology/technique sharing
  • Building the Starbucks of the hot rod world
    – The experience of being a part of something absolutely huge
    – Recalling when Brian bought his first Hot Rods by Boyd t-shirt
    – Adapting the action sports approach to the “Boyd look”
    – The Boyd Zone Tour
    – Creating an atmosphere versus buying a product
    – The creative atmosphere at Boyd’s during the Chip era
  • From Vaynerchuk to Spicoli in one deft swoop
  • Building a hot rod-themed billet guitar for Michael Anthony of Van Halen
    – Presenting the guitar at the Hard Rock
    – Grabbing press via Tim Allen on Leno
  • Tips for marketing and branding aimed at the small shop
    – How to gain maximum exposure at SEMA
    – Influence potential sponsor companies

Episode 23: JF Launier and the Spirit of Hot Rodding


Episode twenty-three heads to The Great White North and drags JF Launier back like a felled case of Labbatt Blue. JF is a long-time friend of Brian’s, and brings his outstanding, catchy spirit of what hot rodding really is to the podcast. Who else can say that they’ve built a Ridler Award winner and then done donuts in Cobo Hall with it? Or driven it at the Optima Ultimate Street Car Challenge?

No one that we know outside of this JF guy.

Aside from a veritable metric ton of Canadian references to get the show rolling, it all goes onto mind-blowingly cool territory with a guy who just gets it.

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  • An almost uncomfortable trip North of the border
  • Brian and JF hint at current projects
  • Talking Detroit debuts
    – The new rules regarding any pre-show coverage of debut cars
    – The risks involved with social media involvement vs keeping a new car “secret” until the show opens
    – JF’s personal experience with leaked images and the Ridler judging rules
    – Having a rule put in place to ban tire-smoking donuts on the show floor because, well… JF
  • Where passion rules the project
  • Not building cars but being the steward to someone’s dream
  • The Kaiser build
    – Learning along the way
    – Innovating and persevering
    – Showing up at GNRS with a Kaiser
    – Spitting the pinion out of the car
    – Jeep Liberty headlamps, and where to use them
  • French-Canadians and the art of cursing
  • Beating the heck out of a Ridler-winning car
  • The ’55 Chrysler Phantom Wagon
    – Installing the wood headliner and clocking screws
    – Being an Jack-of-all-trades on a project out of necessity
  • “Car Club Night”
    – Offering a chance to “lease the shoes of an Olympic athlete”
    – A group effort
    – Learning by doing
  • “Rivision”
    – A team effort that bred priceless friendships and memories
    – When group participation trumps magazine coverage
    – The only Ridler winner to not be featured in Hot Rod Magazine or Street Rodder Magazine
    – The helping hand at Rad Rides
    – Being an ambassador to hot rodding
    – Pushing 150MPH in a Ridler-winning car
     – Post Barrett-Jackson Cup Hijinks
    – The Symphony of boost
    – The sound effect stylings of JF
  • Doing donuts in Cobo Hall with Chip Foose in the passenger seat
  • Scaring Jacques Villeneuve with a Buick
  • Nature time with Alex: The Plecostomus
  • Acadian VS Nova
  • Drifting in the snow
  • Re-return of the Aquarius wheel
  • A well-endowed giraffe
  • Eric’s bad taste in wheels
  • Canadian Tire gets an open invite to sponsor this mess
  • “The Canadian Ballet”

Episode 22: What's Kuchen with Kevin Oeste


Episode twenty-two of the podcast that shouldn’t have brings it all next-level with the always awesome, always friendly and super-prolific Kevin Oeste of V8 Speed & Resto Shop, V8TV, and Muscle Car of the Week. And his team just broke 50,000 subscribers on their YouTube channel. If that doesn’t make you feel lazy by comparison, he’s also the face on many promo videos for aftermarket companies and the host of SEMA Central at the SEMA Show in Las Vegas.

…and he likes Buicks. And knows his kuchen.

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  • A regrettable but damned funny sexual innuendo intro
  • Kevin’s awesome media presence
  • A terribly naughty pee joke
  • Kevin and Brian film at SEMA
    – Round Six’s Brian was the first guest on the V8 Radio podcast!
  • Kevin’s background in radio
    – How he and Mike Clark teamed-up on their podcast
  • Superfans gone wild
  • Early automotive influences
  • Riding along with Dad in the Police cruiser
  • The importance of engaging the youth in our hobby and industry
    – Moving beyond the car show to the movement; getting kids INTO cars literally
  • The difference between ours and the next generation
    – The aspect of personal safety is pushing kids away from hot rodding
  • Today’s technology is magical
  • Flat Earth theory… It’ll make sense
  • Engineering in the face of legislation
  • Oeste’s involvement in SEMA
  • Working with Hot Rod Magazine
  • The different missions of people at the SEMA Show
    – The recurring theme of the importance of interpersonal relationships
  • Recognizing the value of your own business or production
  • C0-hosting the SEMA Hall of Fame banquet with Jessi Combs
    – On inducting his hero Ed Pink
  • “Don’t screw this up, stupid”
  • Giving thanks for being a friend
  • “Old cars make new friends”
  • Return of the Vantheon!
    – The $300 Dodge van
  • Celebrating the success of your colleagues
  • Brian plots his tattoo
    – Two sleeves and a back battle
    – The Star Wars front gets weird
  • The Buick thing
  • “The Sewer Sniffer” Skylark
  • Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals
  • All the latest goings-on in the V8 Speed and Resto Shop

Episode 21: Pillow Talk with Max Fish


Episode twenty-one swims far into the mind of Max Fish, renaissance man. Known far and wide for his engineering and design prowess in the world of air suspension design (heck, he’s writing THE book on the subject), he’s also an accomplished builder, painter and artist in his own right. Hosting one of the most entertaining feeds on social media, he’s the kind of guy who can tickle your brain in the most fascinating of ways, and we spent an evening talking all manner of things.

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  • Neil DeGrasse Tyson and the 2-link
  • Working as a “boutique-style” shop
  • The genesis of The Air Suspension Design book
    – Humble beginnings with a Street Source and “Ask Max”
    – His column in MiniTruckin’ (ties to former guest Mike Alexander)
    – From notebook to complete book
  • Inspiration from a tattoo sketch book
  • Going from stock to “more stock”
    – A non-racing suspension book
    – Notes on where the book is at, completion-wise
  • Teaching the engineering of suspension design
  • Growing up as a “yard sale” of a kid
    – Dad had a long list of hobbies
    – Groomed to figure things out
  • Escape From Anza… to Hemet
  • On wanting to be a mechanic
  • The difference between “stocker” and “stalker” explained
  • Turning down a job on a race team to work at Target, and the reasons why
  • Owning a shop
    – Partnerships, going it alone
  • The joys of driving a slammed VW and living on a dirt road
    – The recurring theme of BMX to VW’s and minis
  • Timeless design
    – Working to honor history, yet redefine it
  • Cadzilla as inspiration
  • Design by the eye
  • The importance of the eye over the tape measure
  • Growing up next to Dick Dean’s shop
  • Friendship with Larry Watson
  • Baffling the paint experts
  • Getting into the arts
    – Painting as an escape from car overload
    – The Brewery in LA
    – Fine Art and Lowbrow
    – The joy of juxtaposing elements
    – Letting go and just creating for the sake of pushing the envelope
  • Drop spindle talk
  • The proliferation of the Pinto/Mustang II suspension
  • Grade-8 nails (left-hand thread, naturally)
  • The Dunning-Kruger effect and cognitive bias in 2-link people

Episode 20: Sixteen Minutes to Solvang


Episode twenty goes all-out like a lacquer thinner-soaked rag on a fresh candy-painted Lamborghini Miura hood. The gearheads .

Please excuse the slight technical glitches in this episode. We were plagued by sun spot, aliens or perhaps an alternate-dimensional rift.

Chip Foose is the kind of a guy that defines what a hot rodder or car nut should be. He’s experienced not only a rich family history in the industry, but having made his mark in virtually every aspect of it; a true renaissance man of the car world if there ever was one.

We dig a bit deep, and find Chip to be not only the fascinating guest we had expected, but an unexpectedly open, passionate about his craft, and downright fun.

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  • Humble beginnings
    – Working in his Dad’s shop
    – Customizing bikes
  • The AMT days
    – The Ala Kart
  • Alex Tremulis inspiration
  • Chip’s bicycle fixation
    – The hunt for original, pre-teen Foose-built Huffy customs
  • The bike caught in the midst of a legal battle
    Chip’s design ends up in bike lore limbo
  • Chip finds design at seven years of age
    – Chip’s Dad Sam inspires him via his art
    – Expressing the Foose look at eleven years of age
    – “If you can’t make it good, make it gaudy”
  • Chip Foose quote memes gone wild
  • Flush glass in a first-gen F-body
    – The first Pro-Touring car
  • The Engle Brothers find a way into the episode
  • Chip’s new ’67 C-10 project
    – Throwing ideas
  • The Imposter Impala
    – The sheer number of hours invested will floor you
    – Chip and Brian compare Ridler Great-8 notes
    – Chip’s keys to figuring proportion
    – Cutting up a brand-new Corvette
    – Airbag recall on a ’65 Impala?
    – Making a hot rod from a brand-new car
    – From driver to Ridler winner
    – The best/worst two-inch square determines the winner
  • On going 180-degrees from trendy
  • Pillows in the backseat
    – It sounds like a Tim McGraw song for a reason
  • Chip’s involvement with the Progeria Research Foundation
    – Chip’s sister Amy continues to inspire
    – The annual poker tournament/car show
    – John Stamos finds legend status among the Gearheads
    – Clinical trial progression
  • Life lessons at ten years old
    – Learning to respect
  • Chip’s first car
    – Inadvertently bought his sister’s car
  • The GTi and San Marcos Pass
  • The art of flipping cars
  • Overhaulin’ and over-workin’
    – Chip ruins the rendering game
  • On having zero time to build a SEMA car
    – Six weeks of work forty hours, sleep eight, repeat
    – The joys of sleeping on your feet
  • Swapping stories
  • Chip’s first day at Kindergarten
  • Disney and Cars Land

Episode 19: Three and a Half Nuggets


Episode nineteen brings the inspiration and life lessons themes.

Mike Alexander is the Gary Vanerchuk of the automotive world.

He’s an example of inspiration, dedication and vision. A pioneer in the digital publishing world, he has moved seamlessly to manufacturing  some of the most ground-breaking air ride systems. Living proof that hard work pays dividends, he opens up about design, school and instinct. Along the way, he lays out a master plan for making it through work, work, work.

…and then we discuss nipples. Like you’d expect any less.

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  • An awkward discussion glides seamlessly into a podcast
  • Starting with a letter to the Editor of MiniTruckin’ to land that first gig
    – Renting a car a twenty one and holding tripods
  • The humble beginnings of mini trucks and the lifestyle
    – “Second car poor” lifestyle
  • The constant shifting of magazine ownership
    – The “perfect 24”
  • The passion of building a brand
  • Self employment for better or worse
  • Shop names in hindsight
    – The value of projecting your business name on your future self
  • Starting early has value (and impresses Brian)
  • The digital revolution
    – The politics which prevented growth
    – Missing social media and more by twenty years
  • Plotting a future, post-magazine life
  • Rev’d Media, Slam’d Mag and a talent pool of incredible proportions
    – Deliberate quality standards
    – When Jalopnik doesn’t compare
    – The coffee table book of digital
  • The value and non-value of formal education
  • Knowing what to apply and when
    – Following your interests; pursuing what you love
  • Max and Brian’s metaphysical discussions serve as an example
  • NEVER giving up
  • Bring passionate enough to get mad at your passions
  • Balancing character with nervous energy
  • “Smile at hardship”
    – Working with struggle to forge character
    – Fight over flight every time


  • The podcast is not sponsored by a condom company
  • An absolutely terrifying Michael Jackson joke
    – Eric made us keep it
  • The small business-as-child metaphor
  • Creative brain equals no sleep
  • The value of compartmentalization
  • Koala bears and chlamydia
    – Dancing in a golden shower of bear urine
  • SEMA insight from every angle
    – Building a vehicle and the challenges presented
    – Cost vs ROI of booth space
  • Sponsorships revisited
    – Representing your sponsor product’s company through your creation
    – Responsibility weighs heavy
    – The importance of effort and how it reflects in all directions
    – “How you do anything is how you do everything”
    – Or “grip the banister with both cheeks”
    – Brian’s lack of a trigger
    – The value of spelling “sponsorship” correctly
    – Sponsorship is the pro-level of building
    – Trade-level value
  • Mike and Brian plot matching SEMA tattoos
  • FLO Airride Manufacturing!
    – A bespoke line of air ride systems
    – A unique compressor
    – Billet vs inferior materials
    – Addressing longevity through design

Episode 18: The Strange Thing


Episode eighteen. That’s a milestone, right? If we were a female pop star from the 1990’s, the creepers would be posting weird things over on social media about how they’d have a chance with us now…. But instead, it’s us who get the chance to sit and talk with good friend and hot rod industry ambassador extraordinaire, Tim Strange.

We talk custom car legends in their underwear, the darker side of TV stardom, hot rod cruises and fat camps, goat sex changes and the dangers of “buffet syndrome.” Let’s see your podcast do this.



  • A Marvel-style intro
  • A poor, sad, nearly pathetic flat boob joke at the expense of 4-H
  • Getting started in the hot rod hobby
    – Tim’s first car, a ’55 Chevy that he bought at eight years old
    – His Dad’s custom bikes and wild ’57 Chevy
  • Always knew he wanted to build hot rods
    – Had his business name picked out in sixth grade
  • The benefits of being raised to work hard
    – Farm life
  • Early days working on Corvettes, both concours and custom
    – Learned to paint ‘flake by fixing crashed custom bass boats
  • Tim’s sideline as a Christmas tree flocker
  • Brian and Tim’s shared history
  • The mentoring theme continues
    – Learning marketing and the value of am working relationship with manufacturers with Rocky Roberstson
    – Staying true not only to your word, but to those who give you a hand
  • Advice to young builders on the topic of sponsors
    – Nothing is free
    – Do what you promise
    – It goes well beyond money
    – “You dance with who got you there.” – Bobby Alloway
  • On burning bridges with sponsorships
    – All companies network
  • How social media has changed the sponsor/builder relationship
    – A whole new requirement and dynamic vs the old days of simple magazine coverage
    – Instagram VS Facebook
    – Number of views, social reach, YouTube views
  • On the changing of goals in the industry
    – Getting in magazines VS winning awards
  • Hot Rod fat camp
  • On automotive television
    – “Search and Restore”
  • On the business of building hot rods
    – “Buffet syndrome”
  • On building cars for enjoyment VS judges
  • The great goat sex change
  • Appreciation for all cars
    – What we’re used to VS what we can do
  • Darryl Starbird’s underwear
  • The Hot Rod Cruise
  • The superpower that is insomnia
  • Brian expresses his thanks to Tim for his help
    – Tim’s talking hands destroy an iPad at SEMA
  • New product judging at the SEMA Show
  • The Nashville-to-Vegas “Strange Road Trip to SEMA”

Episode 17: Life-Size Aunt Jemima, Song of the Hell's Engles


On episode seventeen, Davis and Greg Engle of Engle Brothers Fabrication take time from their busy Instagram posting to hang out with the Gearheads and talk cars, life, family, being freakishly tall, and surprisingly, human anatomy.

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  • A bizarre intro
  • When things go off of the rails
  • Getting started in the hot rod hobby
  • Family history with the Road Kings
    – Early chrome moly dragster chassis construction
  • Drag Week and Greg’s connection to it
  • Podcast Superhost, “Ludicrous Misnomer”
  • Greg reveals that he doesn’t like LS engines
  • Dave’s 8HP blown Olds
  • Alex’s dog falls asleep
  • Putting soul into a project
    – The importance of making things look timeless
    – Beauty is in the details
  • Shots fired on Greg’s wagon
  • Inspiration and where you find it
    – Art in every aspect of a build
    – Making the most of what’s on hand
  • The Danny D-painted kandy gasser stroller
  • The V8 go kart!
  • Greg’s old tool finds
    – A monster bred of necessity
    – Built to last
    – Estate sales and Craig’s list
    – Barry Manilow’s third mention on the podcast, but the first to evade editing
    – The value of purchasing used or old/antique tools when starting out
  • Being mentored by Rob Ida
    – Picking up things from everyone you admire
  • How Brad’s flip-phone Compu-Serve app failed him again
  • Return of the hot rod musical Tres Miserables
  • Dave questions why we had the brothers on
    – Brian hypothesizes that it’s the booze again
    – Alex argues that it was a lost bet
    – It all boils down to mutual enabling
  • The value of being unafraid of failure
  • Seeking out a mentor/guide

Episode 16: Film Friday, Episode One "A Lost Hope"


The Gearheads attempt to enjoy the first “Film Friday” episode, and in honor of this being the first week of Summer, made a grave error.

We watched “Corvette Summer.”

Three of the Gearheads rented it on Amazon; one went right on ahead and purchased it on iTunes. Buyer’s remorse? You’ll have to listen to the episode to see just how deep that rabbit hole goes. There’s nostalgia, kitsch, and, well, this movie. It makes you wonder if they had stuck with the title The Hot One, or its working title Stingray (which was registered for another cruddy film that also had a Corvette).


You can join the Gearheads, and watch along with us! Simply grab a copy of the movie (you can rent or purchase it here on Amazon, or purchase it on iTunes, too), cue that bad boy up as described in the podcast (get to the :10 mark, and let ‘er rip when we do!), and enjoy. We’d suggest having a beverage handy, and leaving your expectations outdoors. If you haven’t seen this one in a while, you may have some preconceived notions about what it’s like.

So did we.



Rather than even try to break the show down to just some bullet-pointed notes, we thought it best to just jot them down HERE. Except for Alex. He went all bullet happy. Either way, you’re welcome.

Episode 15: A High Bolt-age Ride in the Fastener Lane With Bob Florine


The Gearheads host the very gracious and incredibly fun Bob Florine of ARP. We talk careers, the value of learning a business from the ground-up, working as a traveling salesman and engineering. To say that there is a TON of value in this episode would be an understatement. If you’ve ever wanted to learn the in’s and out’s of fastener engineering and how to work your way to the top, then this is your episode. Suffice to say, Bob is the guy you want riding shotgun the next time you run to the hardware store to match up those bolts for your Kruupenschornen IKEA chair.

If you ignore the incredible free class on fastener engineering, the amazing advice on moving through the ranks of company and even the great example of how to treat others, please take this away from the episode:

Bob is a guy who is excited about, and clearly loves his job. The same one he has held for over forty years. Consider that for a moment. This episode hands you the secret to a happy life and career. Boom.

The guys dive deep into the why’s and how’s of bolts, and then get carried away talking about Bob’s project cars, and a little Round Six connection to one via our own Brad.



  • The value of starting out on the ground floor
  • How a quality product and diverse line can put a company far ahead in all aspects
  • A brief history of incredible sustained growth
  • Competition in the marketplace
  • Quality and engineering
  • From go-karts to space
    – Everything from food lines to oil rigs to aerospace
    – Much of ARP’s work comes from racers having day jobs and suggesting the product to their employers
  • Dealing with counterfeit parts in the marketplace
  • The incredible advances in race technology
  • Brian launches “Team Pushbroom,” the only F1 race team that exclusively uses counterfeit parts
  • Smokey Yunick
  • John Paul Stapp and the rocket sled
  • The wealth of engineering information available in just the first twenty pages of the ARP catalog
  • Threads are the weakest link in a fastener
  • Torque wrench versus stretch gauge
    – Torque is variable, stretch is empirical
    – Yield
    – Elastic versus plastic
  • How fasteners are essentially springs
  • Designing fasteners for turbocharged applications
  • Exploring the re-use of “torque-to-yield” fasteners
  • Explaining thread diameter
    – Rolling/extruding thread
  • Hot-heading versus cold-heading
  • Marketing
    – Sponsorship versus paid placement
    – The value of personal relationships over sales dollars
  • Moving to California on his own at seventeen
  • Starting in sales
  • Bob’s first hot rod, a cafe racer-style Honda
  • A ’68 Satellite with a 383
  • The $1500 4-speed ’69 Road Runner
  • The Red ’70 Camaro
  • The ’57 Ranch wagon
  • Pete Chapouris and Brad’s tribute on the tailgate
  • The forthcoming ’67 C-10 project
  • On patina
    – Alex invents “Simu-Rust”

Episode 14: Tuckers, Hot Rods and Rob Ida


The Gearheads host the incredibly skilled and prolific Rob Ida for an evening of incredible coincidences, hot rods, legendary friends and more.

Rob shares his hot rodding history, his perspective on cars competing for awards, and being fortunate to have been able to work on cars that inspire an emotional connection, versus simply being a means to an end in and of themselves. Being a small shop, it’s simply about the car, which is why you won’t visit the shop and see a ton of decoration. Ida’s shop is, as he describes it, “decorated with work.”

And that is a fine description of his incredible career, as well. We think you’re going to enjoy the heck out of this episode, and cannot wait to have Rob back again soon.

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Things covered in this episode:

  • The stakes are high with a new game show
  • The Race of Gentlemen
    – eBay helmets
  • Gene Winfield
    – Finishing projects of Gene’s from the 1960’s
    – Metal shaping classes
    – Laying down on of his world-famous fade paint jobs
    – The incredible work ethic of a 90 year old icon
  • Building cars as art, not a competitive device
  • Having the opportunity to purchase Gene’s old ’32
  • “Decorated with work;” discussing the lack of flashy decor in the shop
    – Emotional attachment to a project versus over-processing a build
    – The recurrence of trends
    – A love of engineering and design and balancing the two
  • Rob’s love for Willys, Tucker and Porsches
  • A family history of fast cars
    – His Dad’s supercharged, 10-second 427-powered street ’32
    – From horses to the Hemi Healey
  • Building the Tucker Torpedo
    – Solving the problem of the center-mount driver seat
    – Using Arduino and SolidWorks
  • Pebble Beach concours-level Tucker #44 restoration
    – Removing 200-lbs of factory lead
  • Using the cars to go beyond, in terms of charity and inspiration
  • Rescuing the original Tucker blueprints
    – Saved from a landfill because of the ink!
    – Discovering original correspondence from Rob’s grandfather and Tucker
  • The challenge of working on/restoring Tucker automobiles
  • The 589ci Tucker flat six
    – Simplicity means less parts to break
  • The incredible engineering of Tucker
  • The value of having and recognizing the great people in your life

Episode 13: A Tumblr Full of Pinstripe Chris


The Gearheads host Chris Dunlop, aka “Pinstripe Chris” for a fun evening of talking art, life coaching and taking risks to get where you need to be. He has an unmistakable and unique style, his work is easily recognizable, and rather than talk about that, we talk about Stanley Kubrick and a Pontiac Fiero. And Spencer Gifts.

An episode that any young artist will not want to miss, as Chris offers some priceless insight and life experience. He’s truly a man wise beyond his years, and truly on a road to forging a legendary career.

Pinstripe Chris

Things covered in this episode:

  • “The punk rocker that wants to buy fake dog poo”
  • “I knew your mom!”
    – Motley Crue concerts and Brian’s mom
  • The profitability of life coaching
  • The difference between “want to” and “have to”
  • On moving from Maryland to California with $1200
  • Making the transition from restoring exotics and classics to being an artist
    – The willingness to start from ground zero to realize one’s potential
  • Creating art
    – “Show something familiar in a unique way”
    – Channeling  the inner “skater” mentality
  • The California car culture
  • SEMA build stress and career trials
  • The difference between monetary gain and opportunity
    – Exposure versus profit
    – Weighing numbers versus value
  • The advantage of being efficient in creating work
  • How hands-on automotive work translates to better art
  • The fundamentals and their importance moving forward
  • Return of the Pirate and Turtle
  • Keeping fresh by being diverse
  • Developing a unique look
    – Limiting “borrowed influences”
    – Dissecting art
    – The “Bob Ross” effect of “happy accidents”
    – “Artistic Neurosurgery”
  • Art and Coffee
    – The different wiring of artists and their response to caffeine
  • The difficulty of wasting materials
    – The cost of pixels
  • The advantage of working both digital AND analog
    – Knowing when to apply which approach
    – Looking for an reveling in the “human flaws” that put a fingerprint on their work
  • Chris’ Bic pen art
  • The value of always pushing for perfection
  • The Sharpie car thing
    – Chemistry
    – Clear coating tricks and tips
    – Paint markers earn their place
    – The Fiat Olympic car
  • Chris’ secret car crush

Episode 12: Getting Cheez-Whizzy With Scott Sullivan

The Gearheads host Street Machine and graphics legend Scott Sullivan on a very rainy Dayton (“day-INN”) night, and talk about cars, rain, improvised weapons and more. This one really does have a little something for everyone, assuming that you don’t get out a lot.

The best possible description of this is to imagine yourself at whatever age you were when you first saw the Cheez-Whiz ’55, but with the cool factor of being a fly on the wall in a garage with that car, Scott, and four of his neighbors. It’s cool, and has one heck of a neat historical gem tucked away. You don’t want to miss this one.

Be sure to look for this, along with all of our other episodes (and much more) on our YouTube channel.


Things covered in this episode:

  • The guys re-reinvent reality TV all over again
    – “American Hot Rod Gladiator Ninja” is born
    – Potential hosting job for Hydro Gene
    – The world’s largest throwing star
  • It rains
    – Hear some actual Ohio thunder
  • Alex brings a storm of expletives
  • Brian’s Directorial diary
  • Early influences
  • Ohio drag racing history
  • Custom paint roots
    – Speaking of roots, we talked about hair color, but that’s a extra for subscribers only
  • They heyday of graphics and magazines
    – That “1980’s” stuff
  • Junkyard trawling revisited
  • The “jubilance” of eleven listener and a glove box door button
  • Scott’s Nova
    – Being twenty-two and building the first Pro-Street car
    – October 1979 Popular Hot Rodding Magazine coined the phrase “Pro-Street”
    – Setting the street machine world on fire
  • Cramming a 13-inch tire under a  ’71 Dodge Demon in a driveway
  • The Rat Pack car club days
    – Pat’s ’70 LS-6 Chevelle
    –The unseen candy red version of the Nova
    –Leaving the club
  • “Birds can fly, but flies can’t bird.”
  • Winning Street Machine of the Year simply because of a bad parking spot (yeah… you read that correctly)
  • The struggle to find 16 and 18-inch wheels
  • Bringing back Convo-Pro’s. We’re joking.  …maybe.
  • The story behind the ’55 wheels.
  • Assorted details on Scott’s ’54 Chevy project

Episode 11: Life Lessons with Carson Lev

The Gearheads welcome the Forrest Gump of the hot rod world, Carson Lev, and talk mentoring by legends, Hot Wheels, the space program and Disney… Not enough street cred? He’s the guy who brought the real Twin Mill to SEMA, and learned to stripe and letter at the shoulder of Kenny Youngblood. Yes, you read that right. It’s a fascinating episode that’s loaded with life lessons and more.

Can you say that Mickey Thompson taught you to wash a car?

No you can’t. Otherwise you’d have been the guest on episode eleven.

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Things covered in this episode:

  • On being born and raised in the hotbed of hot rodding
  • Growing up in the vicinity of sixteen or so drag strips
  • “Normalcy is mediocrity”
    – Mentored by Ed Roth and Mickey Thompson
  • How insecurity bred drive to succeed
  • Hanging out at Lions Drag Strip while his Mom was at work
    – Washing cars for Mickey Thompson
    – Learning from legends
    – The truth behind the hamburger
  • History as told from the guy who was there
  • The importance of old-school mentoring
  • The dichotomy of Ed Roth and Mickey Thompson as mentors
    – Mickey’s lessons in efficiency and negotiating
    – Learning the value of a name alongside art and design from Ed Roth
  • Early dreams of becoming a Doctor
    – The inspiration of the Dino
  • From Med School to Industrial Design
    – Bringing the ergonomics ideas of Henry Dreyfuss to the field
  • Lettering and pinstriping after a day of designing biomedical products
  • Hanging out with Kenny Youngblood
    – Learning what a Stabilo pencil was
    – Using an afro pick to paint headlamps
  • Kirby’s Clubhouse, Reath Automotive
    – “The Hot Rod Version of the Ed Sullivan Show”
  • Carson’s intro to Wally Parks
  • From medical design to Hot Wheels
  • Licensing the World’s Coolest Car Company
  • The Twin Mill at SEMA
  • The Disney connection
  • How to ace a job interview in one simple step
  • The importance of paying it forward

Episode 10: Escape from Madison County

The Round Six Gearheads sat down and just riffed about movies, cars, movie cars, and car chases. They even ponder the genius of a Bridges of Madison County crossover action film. Yeah, it’s a bumpy ride here in episode ten.

We go Hollywood so that you don’t have to.

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Things covered in this episode:

  • Animal-shaped/themed wheels
    – Return of the goldfish wheel
  • Plotting the ultimate heist getaway car
  • Wondering just how many sentient cars there were in movies and TV
  • The ultimate mash-up
  • Making Love Bugs, not War Machines
  • Barney Rubble in a leotard? Sure. Why not? Don’t judge Eric.
  • ANOTHER Joie Chitwood Thrill Show reference
  • Never-ending fries? No, but we’ll have many extra hubcaps, please.
  • Exploring the insurance claims of car chases
  • The obviously humorous side of exploding gas stations in movie chases
  • An accident so violent the vehicle brand changes
  • The value of having production designers who understand cars
  • The eighty-four second quarter mile run
  • The guys pitch a new YouTube channel idea
  • Heart Like a Wheel/Face Full of Oil
  • The incredible weakness of film car hood hinges
  • Fast cars or character development?
    – Living life nine sequels at a time
  • Why an NOS energy drink works, but a Bars Leak-branded one wouldn’t
  • Bottoming-out in Alex’s getaway car
    – The value of air shocks in your heist car, and keeping them filled
  • The delightful Clint Eastwood/Snake Plissken mash-up
  • Re-imagining sappy love stories as car movies
  • A call-back to the Round Six trophy
  • Worst-ever stock car racing movie crew chief
  • Drink your Hydrazine!
    – The birth of energy drink spokesman, Hydro Gene
  • More assorted juvenile idiocy

Episode 9: BS-ing With Billy B

The Round Six Gearheads sat down with world-famous custom painter Billy B for an evening of good-natured, wet fun. This was a fast-paced, fun look at the world of high-powered, super-trick custom boats, racing and laughs.

From humble beginnings to laying paint on drag cars, hot boats and more, this guy has thrown krazy kolors in fresh directions for years, and has made a name for himself as the best there is on any body of water.

That and creating a water sport so extreme that even the Australians may not go for it.

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Things covered in this episode:

  • When Billy met Brad
  • Brian’s filthy mouth
  • A terribly inappropriate intro
    – A flurry of brutal pop culture references
  • Making the move from Graphic Design to Custom Paint
    – The mysterious connection of Dentistry and art
  • Rediscovering Billy’s first custom paint job
  • World-record water skiing
    – BAREFOOT, no less!
    – “Dead arm”
    – Worst secret handshake ever
  • The Australian Dam-to-Dam race (Google this. Holy moly.)
  • Long Beach to Catalina race
  • Humble beginnings
  • Brad’s leaky truck
    – and his Captain Hazelwood shirt
  • The sound of Crocs at 130MPH on water
  • The Red Bull Extreme Inner Tube Challenge
    – The many realms of Formula D
    – The dirtiest acronym ever
  • A thing we can’t mention because someone made us edit it out
  • Genesis of Billy B’s Hot Boat Show
    – In memory of Officer Marvin Carter
    – Giving back to the community
  • The hopeful return of river racing
  • How things have changed over the years
    – Re-branding ideas
  • The Pirate Cove show
    – Local interference
  • The Liquid Fly-By
  • Eric plays Chamber of Commerce rep
  • The boat storage business
  • Personal projects
    – Being a Ford guy with a Chevy powerplant
  • The joy of working without a timeline
  • Brad takes a few more lumps
  • Clients gone wild
  • The many nicknames of Brad

Episode 8: Carbon Fiber Ball Joints and Trophies

The Round Six Gearheads sat down with and got back to their roots with an unscripted, candid discussion on the state of the Street Machine of the Year (SMOTY) award. More than just a simple opinion fest, the guys share insight on the state of the art, the need for a renaissance, and the stale nature of trends. The conversation goes deep for a bit, and explores the what and why of how a car can command your attention, and then levels out neatly with an idea for a tortilla machine to be standard in all continental breakfast lines.

That and carbon fiber ball joints, of course. But not in the breakfast line. Mankind should know his limits, after all.

episode eight carbon fiber ball joint

Things covered in this episode:

  • The current state of build trends
  • How everything went Pro-Touring
  • The “required mods” list, or so it seems
  • The politics of dancing into the Top Five
  • Carbon fiber ball joints
  • Old trends we miss… and a few we don’t
  • Waxing nostalgic with tongue firmly in cheek
  • Offering constructive criticism to bring excitement to the SMOTY award
  • Burning out on a build style
  • “Jumping the shark” on a build style
  • The act of throwing money at a car versus having a plan
  • When a build becomes satire
  • Other trends that are suffering from “same-as” burnout
  • The pricing-out of the common man
  • The importance of pie-in-the-sky builds as inspiration
  • When a car is “too nice” to drive
  • Terribly inappropriate SEMA Show call-backs
  • The hot rod illuninati/”aluminati”
  • The birth of a secret society
  • When a certain build just “does it” for you
  • That point where a high-end build breeds contempt
  • The differences in creativity:
    Designing from scratch VS junkyard trawling
  • Engineering a home-built solution to a high-end design challenge
  • Bringing tweed back
  • Alex and Brian go all Star Wars. Again.
  • Birth of the “Ratborghini.”
  • Why Peter Jackson won’t be directing the Round Six Biopic

Episode 7: Four Plus One Gigglenuts

The Round Six Gearheads sat down with documentarian Adam Kontras, and talked DeLorean DMC-12’s, time machines, Back to the Future movie cars, LS engine swaps, family drama, Shakesperian betrayal… and Eric’s eating habits.

All of this as Adam’s documentary, Fastest DeLorean in the World hits Amazon Prime Video, sharing fortuitous timing with another story about a kid from Columbus Ohio who happens to race a DeLorean. Ready Player One ironically has more screen time of Doc brown’s stylish time machine than does the original Back to the Future. Talk about things being delicately interconnected.

SPOILER ALERT: Watch the documentary first if you don’t want to spoil anything. It’s a big spoiler.

Wish to have the DeLorean time machine appear at your Birthday, wedding, bris, whatever? Hit up Adam’s site here.

episode seven adam kontras

Things covered in this episode.

  • How a non-car guy becomes a car guy by way of necessity
  • The incredible sense of community in the car world
  • Hindsight being 20/20
  • The variables involved in building an engine vs purchasing a salvage motor or crate engine
  • Brian ponders mounting turbos in the rear exhaust vents
  • The benchmark of 12.6’s in the 1/4 mile
  • The hard part of having to rely on the car to earn a living while risking breakage
  • Troubleshooting a power dip
  • Sorting gremlins
  • Faked dyno pulls
  • The effect of the new movie Ready Player One on the car’s popularity
  • The incredible tie-in with Don Fullilove, aka Mayor Goldie Wilson
  • Did you happen to know that Suzy is a publicist?
  • Double-feature o Back to the Future and Fastest DeLorean with a Q&A with Adam and The Mayor
  • The polarizing nature of the f-bomb
  • Creating a f***less version of the documentary
  • The neat coincidence of the shipping of the DeLorean
  • Questioning the manufactured drama of automotive reality television
  • “Ha-ha” vs “horrifying” funny
  • Enjoying a tasty timeslip sandwich with the kids
  • Overlooking the small things when rushing a project
  • The true cost of budget knock-off parts
  • Brian’s endearing soft-ball joke delivery gets a name
  • Where and how to watch the film, and how to help support it

Episode 6: Slinging Paint With Mick Jenkins

The Round Six Gearheads sat down with painter Mick Jenkins for an hour of paint talk.

In Episode Six, we discuss the latest tools and techniques, the time and effort required to paint cars at the AMBR and Ridler level, and even wax a bit nostalgic.

We laughed, we learned, and we asked a ton of questions that Mick was kind enough to answer. Even after Brian called him Mick Jagger. And Mickey Dolenz.

episode six mick jenkins

Things covered in this episode:

  • The difference between a painter and a custom painter
  • The Pure Vision ’57 Ford wagon’s SEMA debut
  • Mick hints at a Ridler project in the shop
  • Brian coins a phrase
  • Rare and notable cars
  • Mick’s favorite project: The Anvil Mustang from Fast and Furious
  • The guys do their homework
  • The time required to turn out an AMBR-winning finish
  • The fine line between passion and a job
  • The difference between hot rodding in England VS the United States
  • Working from a great career to going back to starting at rung one
  • Starting out in the US with Dan Fink, Chip Foose, So-Cal and more
  • Mick’s personal roadster project
  • Working to a level and not wishing to back down from it
  • Staffing a high-end shop with the right personnel
  • The importance of being one’s worst critic, but in moderation
  • The continual evolution of paint quality
  • Advancements in paint materials and chemistry

Episode 5: The Hills are Alive With the Sound of Suzy

The Round Six Gearheads sat down with autocross enthusiast and 2017 SEMA Show sensation Suzy Bauter.

We learned a lot, had a bunch of laughs and said a bunch of stuff we all pinky swore to never mention again.

Suzy articulates the draw of the sport of Autocross, and its appeal to women, and issues an invitation to all to come out and give it a try, if not at least a ride-a-long with her at any of the many events she races in each year. It’s a good thing to drive like a girl.

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Things covered in this episode:

  • Brian’s encyclopedic knowledge of females in racing history
  • German podcast awards
  • Eric’s voracious appetite for tacos
  • How wearing an official-looking shirt can make women talk to you
  • How we all met
  • The Rambler wagon
  • How masking tape can ruin your timeline
  • Suzy’s SEMA Ignited parade experience
  • The craziness of a SEMA build with regard to sleep
  • Competing in Goodguys autocross
    – The great fans
    – The awesome support
    – The coming up-to-1987 vehicle year inclusion
  • Rookie mistakes and learning from them
    – It’s not always the parts, sometimes it’s user error
    – The dangers of liquid Mercury-filled shocks
  • Suzy on being the lone girl in her High School Shop Class
    – Being kicked out of Home Economics
    – “It’s a broad issue.” Thanks, Alex.
    – Sewing VS latch-hooking metal
  • The history of the Rambler project
    – From trailer park to SEMA
    – Eight-tracks to glory
    – Performance testing an eight-track tape under high-G loads
  • Hammer pants, LA Gear high-tops and matching scrunchies
  • Brian’s equipment failure breeds a great back massager joke
  • Suzy turns the tables, and asks the Gearheads a question
  • Brian messes up; it was the 1960 Buick Electra w/the reflecting speedometer
  • Alex’s super-low production sequence number ’71 Camaro RS
  • The growing trend of third-gen F-bodies
  • Waxing nostalgic over first cars
  • Learning to drive Autocross
  • A discussion of island-y people
  • The Round Six Gearheads have a sleepover
  • Brian sings!

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